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I'm not sure if what I'm about to do is, shall we say, kosher, but I'm going to do it anyway. Because if I don't say something about it I will implode.

As I've mentioned several hundred times, I'm currently in a master's program which involves a lot of French people. I like these French people, they're fun to be around, polite, nice and quite interesting to talk to. But. Their politics sometimes make me want to bang my head against the cement.

In one of my classes, in an effort to promote dialogue between the French and American students, we have a group-blog where we're supposed to discuss political, economic and cultural issues. Recently, one of my French comrades posted a diatribe about media bias, specifically FoxNews (as you might imagine, his complaint is not the common complaint voiced by Americans - that the media is too liberal - but in fact, that the media is much too biased towards America). That's fine. I can tolerate bashing FoxNews for being too American, I expect it even, after all, he's French.

Comments:

I totally don't think his comments are supported.

Read "The Things They Carried" by O'Brien. It's about soldiers in the Vietnam war and how in some freak instances (not daily or totally random) a company of soldiers under the stress of combat and the fact that the enemy was disguised as civilians ended up killing a lot of civilians within one village.

It happens but no, not regularly.

# posted by

Lian : 4:48 PM

I couldn't agree with you more...Do you think I should (politely, of course) say something directly back to him? I'm afraid it will get too intense and there'll be bad feelings or something...

# posted by

the wingless one : 1:20 AM

You know, the funny thing is...he spews his rhetoric while Muslims are still torching cars in Paris. How many times must the United States save France's butt before those people finally get it? It behooves me.

# posted by

tony : 4:56 AM

Tony - The more I learn about French politics, the stranger the French seem. While there are definitely individual French people that are rational and logical it seems like as a people they live in fantasy land.

One of my classmates said that if you add up the votes for the Communist and Fascist parties it would make up 25% of the total vote - which means 25% of French people are either extreme right or extreme left (and we're talking extreme).

# posted by

the wingless one : 1:40 AM




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As I've mentioned several hundred times, I'm currently in a master's program which involves a lot of French people. I like these French people, they're fun to be around, polite, nice and quite interesting to talk to. But. Their politics sometimes make me want to bang my head against the cement. In one of my classes, in an effort to promote dialogue between the French and American students, we have a group-blog where we're supposed to discuss political, economic and cultural issues. Recently, one of my French comrades posted a diatribe about media bias, specifically FoxNews (as you might imagine, his complaint is not the common complaint voiced by Americans - that the media is too liberal - but in fact, that the media is much too biased towards America). That's fine. I can tolerate bashing FoxNews for being too American, I expect it even, after all, he's French. And then, there was this: Moreover, I really think it helped, and continues helping the government to hold on during that war because they were using the information at their advantage. I especially think of the randomly shootout in Iraqi villages (to help liberalizing the Iraqi people?), the "effort" made to hide the daily act of torture toward Iraqi prisoners or also minimizing American human losses. I was really choked to see so much misinformation. Oh. Hell. No. Um. I'm sorry, but did that boy just say what I think he said? Random shootouts in Iraqi villages? Accusing our soldiers of "daily acts" of torture? The reason I am not responding directly to him on the group blog is because our professor asked us to keep the discussion civilized. And while I can be civilized while people bash America, bash FoxNews, bash Bush, bash Republicans, etc. I find it extremely difficult to remain level-headed when someone begins accusing our military of random acts of "daily" torture. Oh and don't forget random shootouts in Iraqi villages, because you know our troops just love a good shootout with no objective in mind whatsoever. That's totally what they were trained to do. I have a feeling I may be blogging a lot from Paris. wingless was still breathing at 12:38 PM - Comments: I totally don't think his comments are supported. Read "The Things They Carried" by O'Brien. It's about soldiers in the Vietnam war and how in some freak instances (not daily or totally random) a company of soldiers under the stress of combat and the fact that the enemy was disguised as civilians ended up killing a lot of civilians within one village. It happens but no, not regularly. # posted by Lian : 4:48 PM I couldn't agree with you more...Do you think I should (politely, of course) say something directly back to him? I'm afraid it will get too intense and there'll be bad feelings or something... # posted by the wingless one : 1:20 AM You know, the funny thing is...he spews his rhetoric while Muslims are still torching cars in Paris. How many times must the United States save France's butt before those people finally get it? It behooves me. # posted by tony : 4:56 AM Tony - The more I learn about French politics, the stranger the French seem. While there are definitely individual French people that are rational and logical it seems like as a people they live in fantasy land. One of my classmates said that if you add up the votes for the Communist and Fascist parties it would make up 25% of the total vote - which means 25% of French people are either extreme right or extreme left (and we're talking extreme). # posted by the wingless one : 1:40 AM Post a Comment (c) 2001-2006 transcended.net - all rights reserved